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- From: mgforeh@ix.netcom.com(Mark Gray )
- Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
- Subject: Re: How Does One Contact The Phone Company About Noise Problems?
- Date: 27 Mar 1996 06:21:06 GMT
- Organization: Netcom
- Message-ID: <4jamoi$26p@cloner3.netcom.com>
- References: <4j2ic5$kor@vista.hevanet.com> <4j2rtr$ern@news2.cais.com>
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- X-NETCOM-Date: Tue Mar 26 10:21:06 PM PST 1996
-
- In <4j2rtr$ern@news2.cais.com> floyd@polarnet.com (Floyd Davidson)
- writes:
- >
- >mreiney@hevanet.com wrote:
- >>I have an intermittent line noise problem. There's an
- >>intermittent audible popping and crackling noise on the line when
- >>I connect to my ISP. When the noise is present, it either won't
- >>connect at all or the data rate goes to zero. It's worst around
- >>midnight. It's not there on connections to other BBS numbers.
- >>
- >>This ain't no little data disturbance. It would be quite
- >>objectionable on a voice call.
- >>
- >>The only available trouble number rings to some central service
- >>center 1000 miles away. During the times I can get thru, the
- >>noise is usually not there. So when they test the line, it's OK.
- >...
- >>My ISP is connnected thru a different phone company. So each
- >>points the finger at the other. Both want me to authorize
- >>undisclosed service charges if they go out to take a look.
- >
- >Probably when they test your line (or the ISP's lines) it will
- >_always_ be OK! It sounds more like you might have spotted a
- >problem with interoffice trunking, rather than on either your line
- >(where it would show up no matter what number you call), or on the
- >ISP's lines (where everyone who calls them would be getting the
- >same thing and the ISP would be raising hell with the phone
- >company too). Instead, you wouldn't by any chance be one of
- >relatively few subscribers to that ISP who dial in from that
- >particular CO, would you???
- >
- >Tell them you don't want your line checked because it obviously is
- >good. Then ask for instructions to make a complaint the the state
- >regulatory agency. Inform them that as long as progress is being
- >made you will not file a complaint...
- >
- >>The phone company refuses to give me access to local service
- >>people who might actually be able to help. They won't even give
- >>me a way to call back to the person that I talked with last time.
- >>
- >>Aside from hijacking a GTE truck, is there any way to get thru to
- >>the local phone company?
- >
- >It is very unlikely that you will succeed in doing that, truck or
- >no truck. If you file enough complaints it is very likely that
- >the local office will call you instead, to find out what is
- >actually wrong. They do get tired of seeing the same trouble
- >report every day!
- >
- >But until that happens, the thing to do is ask for a trouble
- >ticket or trouble tracking number. Also ask for the name or
- >initials of the person you are talking to each and every time you
- >call them. Make it very obvious that you are keeping a log of
- >your dealings with them. Ask for an expected time of action and
- >tell them you will call back at that time for a status report.
- >
- >That is exactly the way that telephone companies treat each other,
- >and should not be unfamiliar to them. If you don't seem to be
- >making progress (and do NOT expect instant fixes or other
- >miracles) then ask for a higher level of management. Each higher
- >level should refer you back down the line again. If you get the
- >same lower level and they do not change the response, then go back
- >up the ladder. If that gets you the same response, ask for
- >another higher level. But do let each level have a chance to give
- >corrective guidance to the lower level.
- >
- >As a last resort, complain to the state regulatory agency. Ask
- >them how to formally complain too, because it may make a big
- >difference.
- >
- >>Also, redialing a lot usually finds a path that works. Is there a
- >>way to force the routing thru a particular path in the switching
- >>system?
- >
- >No. But that reinforces the idea that you have spotted a trunk
- >problem. It sounds as if not all of the trunks are affected, and
- >the trick is hitting one of them. If the first choice trunks are
- >bad, then at midnight when the traffic is light you will be more
- >likely to get a bad trunk than during the rest of the day... which
- >might account for your observation that it is worse at that time
- >of the day.
- >
- >The description you gave of the noise is a fair description of
- >what happens when a T1 system (24 trunks) is having timing
- >problems that are so bad that it completely loses synchronization.
- >The result is called "Loss of Frame" or LOF. It causes a very
- >noticeable crackling or popping sound that will generally
- >completely drive a modem connection bonkers. There are, of
- >course, other possible causes...
- >
- > Floyd
- >
- To followup Floyd's idea...when I put a good surge suppressor with
- phone line filtering on my PC, (this AFTER Telco checked my line and
- reported it was within specs), I did get improved on-line sessions
- (less dropping, more first-time connections, etc).
-
- Mark
-